Hetzner Storage Box Support - SSH

Dennis Nind shared this idea 8 months ago
Under Consideration

We would like to use Hetzner SSH Storage Boxes for our backup solution...

https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#rsync

We have already configured an SSH key, so we are able to rsync without a password prompt using /root/.ssh/id_rsa

However, when we try and add this as a backup destination, we get the following error in JetBackup...

Error: Failed to validate destination write ability

I can confirm the rsync however is working fine from the shell directly. I believe the reason for this is that the storage box doesn't permit Interactive SSH access, so its only available for SFTP, rsync and SFTP. Basically, its not available to ssh into directly.

It would be great if you could add this support, as storage boxes are incredibly affordable, fast and reliable from our tests so far.

The cost is also comparable / cheaper than backblaze for larger storage volumes!

The important reason for this is that Backblaze is based in the USA, with only 1 DC - we are UK based, and Hetzner is located far closer.

Comments (10)

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Hi,


Thank you for your feedback :)


I have opened an internal case for your request,

and we will seriously considering this.


We will update you accordingly.


Regards,

JetApss team.

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Hello


I also need solution for same problem. Did you resolved this problem?


Thanks

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Hello Team,

Please consider this in priority as it is a good solution when compared to other storage devices. Hetzner is a good provider to storage boxes.

Thanks,

Baiju.

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Hi,


Thank you for the feedback.

Hetzner storage support is still on drawing board,

And might be implemented on JetBackup 4.1


Thank you,

JetApss team.

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This would be great! In the meantime, for the UK you can use StorageSpider and switch to Hetzner once they allow SSH, or use both and have one for secondary backups. You can never have too many backups! StorageSpider works perfectly with JetBackup, and the same setup is used to backup HostXNow Shared/Reseller servers, but of course, secondary backups of those servers are sent to other offsite locations just to be on the safe side. It would be great to be able to use Hetzner Storage Boxes for another place to store data.

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Hi,


cPanel servers are less recomended then un-cPanel as a backup servers.

But as said "You can never have too many backups!" :)


Thank you for the feedback HostXNow.


JetApps team.

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Of course, there are more chances of a cPanel server becoming hacked due to the many different software hosted on the server than just a server with only jailed SSH backup accounts, but then some would likely want to hack live production servers and not backup server cPanel or otherwise.

If the cPanel server being used for backups is running CloudLinux along with CageFS then at least it isolates each backup account from one another which is good. Also, cPanel/CloudLinux updates happen automatically and even more secure when using Kernelcare so any less secure than a non-cPanel server, agreed?


What we do is backup up servers to jailed SSH cPanel accounts and then every so often back up the data up to Online c14. It is a shame you cannot backup directly to Online c14 because, by default, what they call "safe" will automatically close after 7 days. Therefore, you cannot use Online c14 for continuous data protection. Excellent for secondary backups though. Plus Online c14 only has France location. So backing up to UK server first and having secondary backups in France is a good backup system. You could even add another backup outside of UK/Europe but due to latency can slow the transfer speeds down. Using at least two different backup systems in the same continent should be fine.

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Hi,


"cPanel server becoming hacked" - Yes, this is one of the reasons for not recommending cPanel server as a backup destination server - and on that case, CageFS can definitely be an assist.

Anyway, to extend this topic you are more than welcome to open a forum conversion about it @ https://forum.jetapps.com/


Regards,

JetApps team

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Hi there,

We are definitely keen to use this.

We managed to get it working through the FTP backups, but its so, so slow.

SSH backups would be ideal!

Do you have an ETA when this would be released?

Or, do you have a recommended workaround for now? Such as one of the mount options?

Kind regards,

Dennis

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Hi,


This issue is Under consideration for JetBackup 4.1


The ETA for that version is about a year.


This destination hasn't been tested as a mounted partition - if you were able to manage the connection as SSH connection it may be a great workaround at this stage.


Regards,

JetApps Team.

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